Comments on: Got a Question about Vocalic R Articulation Disorders? 2007-Aug 2008 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/ All About /r/ and Vocalic /r/ Speech Therapy Weblog Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:56:47 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: ristuccia http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-303 ristuccia Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:56:47 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-303 Alex, What evaluation tool is the SLP using to determine progress made? <a href="http://www.sayitright.org/advancedscreening.html" rel="nofollow">The Entire World of R Advance Screening </a>considers 32 different types of /r/'s and provides percentages of correctness. This will give a good assessment of /r/ and can accurately track the response to intervention and thus progress made. Anatomical issues may be a factor and should be something discussed with a doctor. However, do your children make a correct /r/ in any context? We've found in our research that just about all children can make a correct /r/ in some context. If the child can produce a correct sound in one context, then the ability is present to transfer to other sounds. Using correct production of sounds to elicit incorrect sounds is one of the tenents of The Entire World of R program. I hope this information helps. Christine Alex,

What evaluation tool is the SLP using to determine progress made? The Entire World of R Advance Screening considers 32 different types of /r/’s and provides percentages of correctness. This will give a good assessment of /r/ and can accurately track the response to intervention and thus progress made.

Anatomical issues may be a factor and should be something discussed with a doctor. However, do your children make a correct /r/ in any context? We’ve found in our research that just about all children can make a correct /r/ in some context. If the child can produce a correct sound in one context, then the ability is present to transfer to other sounds. Using correct production of sounds to elicit incorrect sounds is one of the tenents of The Entire World of R program.

I hope this information helps.

Christine

]]> By: Alex http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-302 Alex Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:49:21 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-302 My two kids, age 10 and 8, both have speech articulation issues, mainly with the letter R. Both have been receiving speech therapy for years. My younger who is much worse than the other has been in speech therapy for about 5 years. We have also switched around therapists because we have not seen any progress. Each tells me that progress is being made, but I have not seen nor heard it. The latest Speech Therapist I contacted evaluated my kids and suggested that their issue may be more anatomical. She further suggested to go to an ENT to have their tonsils evaluated. While their tonsils are not enlarged, she felt that may be getting in the way of making the R sound. Does anyone have experience with this? Any suggestions would be appreciated. My two kids, age 10 and 8, both have speech articulation issues, mainly with the letter R. Both have been receiving speech therapy for years. My younger who is much worse than the other has been in speech therapy for about 5 years. We have also switched around therapists because we have not seen any progress. Each tells me that progress is being made, but I have not seen nor heard it. The latest Speech Therapist I contacted evaluated my kids and suggested that their issue may be more anatomical. She further suggested to go to an ENT to have their tonsils evaluated. While their tonsils are not enlarged, she felt that may be getting in the way of making the R sound. Does anyone have experience with this? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

]]> By: ristuccia http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-298 ristuccia Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:04:51 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-298 Nithya, The best first step is to administer <a href="http://www.sayitright.org/advancedscreening.html" rel="nofollow">The Entire World of R Advanced Screening </a>to see which /r/'s the student can and cannot produce. Does he replace /r/ for all the /r/'s or just some? We/You need more specific information to present to the mom and the Advanced Screening will provide that for you. Christine Nithya,

The best first step is to administer The Entire World of R Advanced Screening to see which /r/’s the student can and cannot produce. Does he replace /r/ for all the /r/’s or just some? We/You need more specific information to present to the mom and the Advanced Screening will provide that for you.

Christine

]]> By: Nithya http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-296 Nithya Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:32:20 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-296 Hi Christine, I work in a school setup. I see a student in middle school who cannot produce vocalic /r/. He replaces with /l/ sound. He has been receiving speech therapy for /r/ sound since 4 or 5 yrs. I'm seeing him since 6 months only, but other SLP was seeing him since 3 yrs. He has a h/o tourettes syndrome and ADD. he has tics. Mom is very demanding as there is no progress seen since years. Other SLPs say that he should take a break from therapy. Can you help me with this. I've a meeting with mom on 12/7/09. Thanks & Regards, Nithya. Hi Christine,

I work in a school setup. I see a student in middle school who cannot produce vocalic /r/. He replaces with /l/ sound. He has been receiving speech therapy for /r/ sound since 4 or 5 yrs. I’m seeing him since 6 months only, but other SLP was seeing him since 3 yrs. He has a h/o tourettes syndrome and ADD. he has tics. Mom is very demanding as there is no progress seen since years. Other SLPs say that he should take a break from therapy. Can you help me with this. I’ve a meeting with mom on 12/7/09.

Thanks & Regards,
Nithya.

]]> By: WR http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-286 WR Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:00:17 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-286 Thanks for that Christine. I'll give that a try with her! Cheers, Wilma Thanks for that Christine. I’ll give that a try with her!

Cheers, Wilma

]]> By: ristuccia http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-285 ristuccia Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:36:41 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-285 Wilm, It's good that she can discriminate the sounds. One solution is to have your daughter smile when saying prevocalic /r/. If the child is rounding her lips then the word will sound like a /w/. If she smiles and looks in a mirror she will be able to see the difference between /r/ and /w/. Christine Wilm,

It’s good that she can discriminate the sounds. One solution is to have your daughter smile when saying prevocalic /r/. If the child is rounding her lips then the word will sound like a /w/. If she smiles and looks in a mirror she will be able to see the difference between /r/ and /w/.

Christine

]]> By: WR http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-282 WR Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:45:19 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-282 Thanks for that Christine. I've tried the words that you mentioned - she can hear the difference no problem (if I try and say "I will weed a book" instead of read, she laughs and tells me I'm saying it wrong), but she doesn't seem to know how to make the r sound particularly for words starting with an r. How do I explain to her how to make the sound? Tip of the tongue on the roof of her mouth? Sorry to ask so many questions! Wilm Thanks for that Christine.
I’ve tried the words that you mentioned – she can hear the difference no problem (if I try and say “I will weed a book” instead of read, she laughs and tells me I’m saying it wrong), but she doesn’t seem to know how to make the r sound particularly for words starting with an r.

How do I explain to her how to make the sound? Tip of the tongue on the roof of her mouth?

Sorry to ask so many questions!

Wilm

]]> By: ristuccia http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-280 ristuccia Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:29:57 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-280 The /r/ sounds does develop later than other sounds, so there is the possibility that it will self correct. However, it’s a good idea to provide a little help as well. If she’s unintelligible, then you should have her evaluated by a speech-language pathologist. Otherwise, you should try modeling and then asking her to repeat /r/ and /w/ words, such as ride/wide, whip/rip, ring/wing, run/won, read/weed, etc. Contrasting the words should help her hear the difference so that she can learn to self-correct. Christine The /r/ sounds does develop later than other sounds, so there is the possibility that it will self correct. However, it’s a good idea to provide a little help as well. If she’s unintelligible, then you should have her evaluated by a speech-language pathologist. Otherwise, you should try modeling and then asking her to repeat /r/ and /w/ words, such as ride/wide, whip/rip, ring/wing, run/won, read/weed, etc. Contrasting the words should help her hear the difference so that she can learn to self-correct.

Christine

]]> By: WR http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-276 WR Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:55:38 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-276 Hi, Generally at what age should a child be saying /r/ sounds well? My daughter turned 5 recently and I notice that she often uses a w instead of a r (eg wabbit) and uses a w instead of an r in her name (her name is Marieke). Should I do something about this now or should I wait until she is a bit older? Thanks Hi,

Generally at what age should a child be saying /r/ sounds well?

My daughter turned 5 recently and I notice that she often uses a w instead of a r (eg wabbit) and uses a w instead of an r in her name (her name is Marieke).

Should I do something about this now or should I wait until she is a bit older?

Thanks

]]> By: ristuccia http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-279 ristuccia Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:28:27 +0000 http://entireworldofr.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/got-a-question-about-vocalic-r-articulation-disorders-ask-mrs-r/#comment-279 Caroline, We don’t maintain a listing of SLPs, but the American Speech-Language Hearing Association (ASHA) does maintain a directory. It can be found at http://www.asha.org/findpro/. You’ll have to contact the SLPs in your area and ask him or her what their expertise is to find exactly what you need. Good luck, Christine Caroline,

We don’t maintain a listing of SLPs, but the American Speech-Language Hearing Association (ASHA) does maintain a directory. It can be found at http://www.asha.org/findpro/. You’ll have to contact the SLPs in your area and ask him or her what their expertise is to find exactly what you need.

Good luck,

Christine

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